They are part of life's cycle and embrace it.
Main characters can't be Light/Neutral/Dark. I find a lot to sympathize with in Strange Journey chaos. The whole point of free will is the pursuit of happiness anyways, so what's the point of resisting? Worst case, humanity's corruption causes it to reappear sometime in the future. Demons are a reflection of humanity.
The existence of righteous demons in a new, Chaos filled world would serve as guideposts as to how humanity should live in order to preserve their relations with the Gods and ultimately with themselves. We are shown images of pyramids covered in blood and what appears to be people fighting around it.
As a bonus, this option has the lowest body count by an enormous margin. Coming off of Nocturne's True Demon Ending, I had fully embraced my status as a chaos-fag. ^ I don't have official support but I guess the MC is light, cause the MC cannot start any active conversation with dark demons. The ending text says that the impure are purged, but since Zelenin deems Jack's squad fit to live, it seems the bar for survival is set pretty damn low. No one commands you, no person and no idea. Chaos is not about social darwinism. Maybe one or two would get kept as pets by the succubi or the fairies, but the majority face extinction. Social darwinism doesn't imply constantly actively weeding out the weak just because they're weak.
In a world where people are encouraged to be self interested, and survival and progress are based on strength, and any semblance of the idea that you "need" to support anyone weaker for any moral reason are done away with, its pretty explicitly social darwinistic from the egoism alone. Without science, humans are powerless. Strange Journey Wiki: http://smtsj.wikidot.com/. But it would be misleading to act like most chaos demons in-game aren't big on social darwinism in an explicit sense. But in the end, I just couldn't take the same path for Strange Journey. It has you accept that reality and do your own thing. You got that Angel's body for being willing to die for God, and hey! Demons overrun the world and regain their powers as the gods of old.
The ending literally shows gigantic piles of bodies in pools of blood. The Earth remains a world of humans struggling against one another to survive. Demons ending up evil and disturbing are a reflection of humanity's collective sinfulness. There's literally no scene past when he fuses that he's not implied to be angry or aggressive in.
Humanity may have lost its freedom, but it was all for the greater good.
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They want to tear it all down to give everyone a fair shot. In the end, the Red Sprite destroys the Schwartzwelt, leaving humanity to live untouched by demons. Angry at injustice in the world and society. He only wasn't angry going in because he was explicitly identified as entirely self interested early on, and so he simply didn't care about anything that happened to anyone else before then. I switch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjBy7lQ7Dls. In Strange Journey? How do I solve EX-Mission Don't Count to 30. She's better than people pretend, but she's not even the best law girl. World of Strength, death to the weak, etc etc. Jiminez is a dick.
Megami Tensei II for the Famicom has two possible endings, depending on some choices the player makes during the game. Other than that, there are three endings, as mentioned before: Law, Neutral, and Chaos. The endings (Law, Chaos, and Neutral) in Shin Megami Tensei I and Shin Megami Tensei II depens on the Silent Protagonist 's alignment and his choices on who to side with. I also went reverse from my normal inclination in that game, and I've read the same from others. Demon / human relations being better doesn't change that if war for the sake of war is a staple in this new world that things analogous to racism would be encouraged. Jimenez goes Chaos, Zelenin goes Law, and Gore comes back from the dead for Neutral. But what if they did? Jiminez doesn't have that anger.
Angry at social structures. "No matter how far a jackass travels, it won't come back a horse." Angry at god. Here's where the Law ending comes in. Strange Journey contextualizes the character arcs differently than most other SMT games. It goes against our every instinct, especially in the West, but it's the best choice on a few levels.
Press J to jump to the feed. The closest thing to a "bad ending" there is is the Game Over sequence.
All that's beside the point though since there's no way to prove we have free will anyways. In this one, Space Marine nukes the demons and Zelenin brainwashes the earth into singing the Lord's praises in blissful unity forever, trading freedom for happiness. That is torture, and a lack of liberation will lead to mankind's collective suffering.
This somewhat parallels the Law ideals in that humanity has to start over in order to regain their old righteousness. It goes against our every instinct, especially in the West, but it's the best choice on a few levels. Bear in mind, these were the humans that convinced her that all of humanity was beyond salvation. If the Neutral ending banned demons for good, the world would still be full of corruption. It misses anything like a point that actually makes sense to go off of. You know, is not like Merkabah literally say the same thing in IV. The Law ending offers a solution to the struggle: sacrifice free will in exchange for eternal bliss.
There's no cold "for the greater good" dissociation with him. If you can forget the taste of sugar.". "No matter how far a jackass travels, it won't come back a horse.". The closest thing to a "bad ending" there is is the Game Over sequence. The Schwartzwelt would be forgotten within a few generations and humanity would go right back to its violence, depravity, greed, and wastefulness.
In the end, I chose to replace the world of human corruption not with a world of demonic violence, but with a world of harmony and peace.
General Atlus discussion is usually allowed as well. Y'know, every single MegaTen game i've ever played, I at one point purposely get the game over sequence, just to see what it is. In practice though, most people would probably sacrifice many freedoms if guaranteed happiness as long as they didn't have it presented as sacrificing freedom. That's like calling erasing everything max equality, since by definition its the most equal.
The whole point of free will is the pursuit of happiness anyways, so what's the point of resisting? Humanity's corruption caused the Schwartzwelt to appear in the first place, so it's only fitting that they face up to the bloody consequences.
The strong survive and the weak perish.
They are part of life's cycle and embrace it. Isn't there a bad ending or something like that? I think the big difference is that Jiminez is motivated by compassion and Zelenin isn't. What a load of it, you werent any bigger! Peace exists for culture! The whole point of free will is the pursuit of happiness anyways, so what's the point of resisting? Most people who use the phrase free will when referring to megaten are using it wrong to mean a more general physical freedom. This looked like the best option at first. I'm a law guy in every other game because the chaos reps think and act like children. Thanks. It differs from our lives irl that are very orderly. The purpose of Chaos is to wipe out the evil humanity in favor of a new one, so that humans can flourish and rejoin their connection to the old gods in harmony. It's a world that is facing unending stable cultural stagnation. "Killing someone is easy. Never!
The chaos in SJ is one where life doesn't matter and comes and goes freely.
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This is a community for all MegaTen and subseries related news. I think that saving Bugaboo was a compassionate heroic sacrifice. There are no Light or Dark paths that lead to Light Law or whatever endings. Zelenin's mercy on Jack's squad was the turning point for me; it was here that I started thinking critically about the different endings. The Neutral ending holds the less harsh option. For example, new Law ends with humanity bring stripped of their will to fight, so next time demons appear (and they will) then will humanity be able to defend itself? The Earth becomes a world of demons struggling against one another to survive. Well, while I don't know and therefore don't really need to be making this post... Don't forget to check out my SMT related webcomics at http://user.drunkduck.com/Strain42, I don't think we can choose Light-Dark-Neutral for MC : /. That changes the whole dynamic of the thing.
Hah! Three paths (Law, Neutral & Chaos), three endings (Law, Neutral & Chaos).
Either humans would ascend like Jimenez did or they would get slaughtered and be reborn by Mem Aleph as demons (Jimenez suggests this concept in his dying words). Due the the absence of thinking the strong have any reason to help the weak if they don't want to. No question.
Most chaos reps are driven by anger. Even aside from merely that its also explicitly defined as socially darwinistic. The darwinism is implied by the absence of what chaos thinks as much as the presence. Even if you do come to this realization, there is not much that you can do about it once Law has been established. IV identifies social darwinism as an explicit part of the teachings of the ring of gaea. I find a lot to sympathize with in Strange Journey chaos. Hell, as strong as the Space Marine ends up, he can only hold his own against the demons because of the DEMONICA. I just want to know sooner then later so I don't mess anything up.
I wanted to side with Chaos, really. Games from the main series Shin Megami Tensei, Persona, Devil Summoner, Devil Survivor, etc. I never once considered Law as an option until the plot began to unfold. Amane is after you mentally divorce her character from her headband. I realized that the Chaos ending would wipe out humanity. So you did. Oh wait a second! Do you seriously think mental mass castration bringing worldly factory bliss is a good thing? People gladly cling to freedom, even if it causes suffering.
Best case scenario, they destroyed the Schwartzwelt permanently and they'll never have to deal with demons again. You just lost yourself.. Death to evil even when it's human, compassion for friends even when they're Demons.
The Chaos ending is pretty simple. Yes, you can spin it as an opportunity for something else, as a well intentioned person who thinks that they can get people to use thier radical freedom for something else.
I told myself that even if the Chaos route sucked, I could still go Neutral to maintain the status quo. It has a strange appeal as people don't seem to care about anything, even their lives. now playing shin megami tensei : strange journey [Complete All Route]. The Law ending offers a solution to the struggle: sacrifice free will in exchange for eternal bliss. I think that Mastema is a creepy fuck and I wouldn't trust him either. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.