Bill Fortenberry is a Christian philosopher and historian in Birmingham, AL. Th point was to show Job's lack of standing to critique God's works and ways, not to establish the basis for a comprehensive cosmology.
Abortion Bill's work has been cited in several legal journals, and he has appeared as a guest on shows including The Dr. Gina Show, The Michael Hart Show, and Real Science Radio. April 2014 Thanks for a thoughtful and sound discussion of the matter. Science April 2016 6Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble. But only paying attention to the genre (in Job's case, Mesopotamian-styled Hero Epic) can we know when to see the off-hand use of language in its verse as figurative or literal. January 2016 Politics Therefore, the foundations are not literal but speak about all that God had decreed & purposed for mankind (see previous verses). "He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered? ), it would have diverted attention away from His point. Genre of the biblical book is an important consideration for interpreting any individual verse found therein. June 2015 4He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?
10The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed. Trying to bring our modern conceptions and expectations into these texts is a disservice to what the biblical authors where trying to express. If God had phrased the question using cosmologically precise terminology instread of anthropomorphized constuction terminology (foundations, chalk-line leveling, cornerstone fastening, etc. There are 29 verses about the pillars. Selah. In Hannah’s prayer of thanksgiving, she says, “The pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them He has set the world” (1 Samuel 2:8, ESV).
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Kudos!! June 2019 The creation account in Genesis was not meant to be a scientific account of the world being brought to physical existence. 1Samuel 2:8 H4690
He will tell the fools to stop being foolish, and he will tell the wicked to stop bragging about themselves. "Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning." February 2019 Obviously, this verse is not talking about the mountains because mountains cannot know anything in the first place. For word pillar there are different words in Hebrew and Greek, Job 9:6. The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. King James Version (KJV). Which included pillars supporting the earth, among other things. Well I'm LLLLLOL - it does't change a thing my friend - But It means you disbelieve Gods word and how he created this wonderful flat plain with a dome (firmament) we live on -, It gives me hope that all is not yet lost. And in the middle of this passage we see that the judge can do this because he is the one who bears up the pillars of the earth.
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Islam December 2015 8Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. September 2019 Bible Contradiction James Wilson The Bible does not say that the earth rests on pillars. You never once mentioned Flat Earth and yet this is the Biblcial answer to their silly assumptions. In many cases literal cosmological accuracy would blunt the point of the Bible passage. Tactical Faith This passage is obviously referring to a judgement of people. "He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.". G4769. June 2016 Pillars - The foundations of the earth, which God created, and upholds, and wherewith he sustains the earth, and all its inhabitants, as a house is supported with pillars; and therefore it is not strange if he disposeth of persons and things therein as he pleaseth. Your comment will be posted after it is approved. Solon Which best represents the problem with the comment. February 2017 March 2017 Are the books in question meant to be understood as cosmologies, or do they use language about nature figuratively while making points about other things? It can't be understood as literal pillars - it wouldn't make any sense. Peter, clearly the word 'pillars' in 1 Sam 2:8 should be understood as 'foundations', just as a house that is supported on pillars firmly attached to its foundations. This is covered in more detail in "Eden's Tree of Death.". Explained quite well. “He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.” Parenting For the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them. Since little was know about how God did what He did at creation, use of any but figuative contemporary construction terms would have shot the reader off into an odyssey of cosmology and left Job in the dust. Atonement You conveniently left out Genesis 1:9 which says that the Earth sits on the pillars, There are different meanings in all scriptures you mentioned, There are different words in Hebrew and Greek for the world pillar you mentioned. Sacrifice 5They that were full have hired out themselves for bread; and they that were hungry ceased: so that the barren hath born seven; and she that hath many children is waxed feeble. January 2017 So you're saying that God speaks figuratively? Sam Harris
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I said unto the fools, Deal not foolishly: and to the wicked, Lift not up the horn:". The positions of leadership in the earth, the pillars of the earth, are the Lord's.
The second part of the verse explains why it is God who makes this determination. The second reference to the pillars of the earth is a little more difficult to understand. Or have you walked in search of the depths?" Not a chance buddy God speaks facts not figuratively you need to believe everything he says as fact not figurative. Self-Defense
These people will never prosper. It is found in Job 9:6, but let's add verses 4 and 5 to our consideration as well. Marriage
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May 2016 March 2020 Whereas some translations such as the NKJV, ESV, and NASB use the phrase the pillars of the earth, other translations simply have “the foundations of the earth” (NIV, CSB, BSB). The final reference to the pillars of the earth is found in Psalm 75:3, but let's include verses 2 and 4 to get the sense of the context. Apologetics July 2015 There are only three verses which speak of the pillars of the earth, and all three are using figurative language to refer to leaders among men.
To understand the reference to the pillars of the earth in verse 6, we have to first ask who verse 5 is speaking of when it says "they know not." What Bible is everyone reading? Its pillars tremble.- World English BibleWho is shaking earth from its place, And its pillars move themselves.- Youngs Literal Bible Who shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.- Jewish Publication Society Bible. God shakes the earth and the leaders thereof tremble in fear. July 2018 Evolution Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE circle of the EARTH earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Think of the word circle as a verb...The earth turns in a circle.. September 2014
For example, Job 38:4-7, where God asked Job "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth..." and then used common construction terms of Job's day to describe creation. Here in Psalm 75, we find that He is also the One who holds those leaders in their position, and when He decides to remove them from leadership, their societies are dissolved away. What are the Pillars of the Earth Mentioned in the Bible. Immigration On the other hand, God goes on to ask Job in vs. 16, "Have you entered the springs of the sea? There is nothing that anyone can do to prevent His judgement. October 2017 "When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly. American History Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.". May 2017 Job 9:6 “Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.” King James Version (KJV) Children Pillars - The deep and inward parts of it, which like pillars supported those parts that appear to our view.